The New York Boundary

    915. From William Tryon, 6 November 1771

    916. To Unknown, 12 November 1771

    917. To Sir Francis Bernard, 13 November 1771

    918. To William Tryon, 25 November 1771

    A dispute over the boundary between New York and Massachusetts led to open violence in 1766. Commissioners from both colonies, including Hutchinson, met at New Haven in 1767, where they narrowed the wide differences (New York claimed all of Massachusetts west of the Connecticut River, as well as what is now Vermont) but failed to reach a settlement. William Tryon, the new governor of New York, proposed splitting the remaining difference of a few miles, an idea that would be the basis of the final agreement but not without considerable difficulties.

    915. From William Tryon

    Fort George New York 6th Novemr. 1771

    Sir, The contest concerning the boundary line between this Province and the Massachusetts Bay is so naturally productive of inquietude and disorders in both Colonies, that I cannot avoid troubling your Excellency with a request of your aid in my endeavors to bring this tedious and mischievous controversy to a speedy determination.

    His Majesty’s recommendation of an amicable settlement of it by Commissaries of our own appointment, is such an instance of his Royal Grace and condescention, as justly merits the gratitude of both Provinces, and ought to excite them to promote with great cheerfulness a design of so much utility and importance.

    The unsuccessful issue of the Negotiations of the Commissaries at New Haven in October 1767 cannot be sufficiently regretted and yet I hope the advancements they made by their mutual concessions will very much facilitate the good end I have in view of establishing a Partition line between the two Governments.1

    The Earl of Shelburne by his Letter to Sir Henry Moore of the 11th of December 1766 signified it to be his Majesty’s pleasure in case the Colonies could not agree, that a narrative of the grounds and progress of the differences should be sent home with the proper vouchers that the whole affair might be considered and determined in England; but tho’ a Law was passed here appointing agents for that work, soon after the return of our Commissaries from New Haven, yet I am assured by Mr. Smith who is one of the agents that no papers upon this subject have as yet been transmitted:2 so that there is still a door open for a re-attempt to establish a Line of Partition by a voluntary compact, as recommended by the Crown.

    Upon a report of the Conferences at New Haven to the General Assembly of this Province, the House adopted the sentiments of our Commissaries that the River Connecticut is the Eastern boundary of this Province, but as they nevertheless approved from a desire to prevent future contention of their Commissaries ultimate proposal to yours, I flatter myself this Country may be persuaded to a cession still more favorable to your Government, if the people of Massachusetts Bay animated by an equal regard for the public repose and the security of the numerous claimants upon the borders, will make some enlargement to the last offer of their Commissaries.

    The Lines these Gentlemen reciprocally tendered for the partition are said to be within a mile of each other, the intermediate Tract consequently must be very inconsiderable in quantity, and according to my information is really of so inferior a quality that the value of it must be short of the expence inevitably attendant upon a further prosecution of the controversy.

    It is very far from my intention to open fresh debates upon this subject. The Commissaries by their mutual offers have contracted the claims of the Provinces to a very narrow compass; and as I mean only to excite other concessions on both sides, I do with great frankness assure your Excellency that you may depend upon my zealous endeavors to promote a final agreement upon a middle line between the last offers of the Commissaries, so as equally to divide the Tract remaining in difference at the breaking up of their Treaty. As the rapid population of the Country must render the subsisting animosities between the Inhabitants adjacent to the contested Territory daily more serious and important, I shall be very happy in being instrumental in forwarding a design evidently recommended by every consideration of duty to the Crown and regard to the public tranquility.

    I cannot entertain the least doubt of the same good disposition on your part; if I find therefore by your Answer that this proposal of mine can be agreed to before the again meeting of the Commissaries I will take proper steps towards carrying it into execution at the next Session of our General Assembly which will be in the course of this Winter. If, on the other hand, I should fail in my intention by the tenacious attachments of the Provinces to their respective Claims, I shall then think it my duty to order an immediate transmission of the case and proofs agreable to his Majesty’s Commands for his Royal consideration and final determination; pressing at the same time the many urgent reasons there are for the speedy decision of a controversy of such importance to the peace and harmony of both Governments. I am, with much regard Sir Your most obedient humble Servant,

    Wm. Tryon

    PS. It is necessary to observe to your Excellency that the Lines from the River were explained and understood by the Commissaries on both sides to be horizontal or Air Lines.

    W. T.

    SC (National Archives UK, CO 5/761, ff. 140–41); at foot of letter, “His Excellency Govr. Hutchinson”; docketed, “Copy of Letter from Governor Tryon to Govr. Hutchinson. 6th. November 1771. In Govr. Hutchinson’s (No 29.) of 26th: June 1772.” SC (National Archives UK, CO 5/761, ff. 17–18); at foot of letter, “Copy” and “His Excellency Governor Hutchinson.” SC (National Archives UK, CO 5/894, ff. 172–73); docketed, “Massachusets. Copy of a letter from Governor Tryon to Govr Hutchinson Nov. 6. 1771 In the Govr’s Letter No. 16. O.o. 31.” SC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 4:310–12); at foot of letter, “[His] Excellency Govr. Hutchinson.” SC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 4:313–15); at foot of letter, “His Excellency Govr. Hutchinson.”

    916. To Unknown

    Boston 12 Nov. 1771

    Dear Sir, I came to town yesterday too late to answer your Letter. I complied with your desire & burnt it lest it shoud come to the sight of any other person so that I am not able to answer evry part of it but the main subject I very well remember. I have no more difficulty in my mind in your pursuing your inclination when I consider the case in a moral view taken in a strict sense abstract from prudential considerations, than I should have in eating swines flesh or blood puddings. But is not Prudence a part of morality? And would not such a step lessen the esteem you have justly acquired & destroy your future usefulness? Here lies the grand difficulty. I think you would be censured by your friends for an imprudent step & many of them would forsake you who would have done the same thing themselves without any scruple of conscience if they had thought it for their Interest but your Enemies & you know you & I have a great many, would fall upon you with all the malice imaginable. You woud not only make a fine subject for Edes & Gill but you woud infallibly be pursued as a Criminal & what woud it signify to have the penalty remitted? You can have no dispensation. No sooner woud one prosecution be ended but unless you seperated you woud be exposed to another. If you are determind as I think you are not, the only step you can possibly take & preserve a shadow of prudence will be to remove into a Government where such matches are tolerated & practised. If you cannot bring yourself to that it is the strongest proof that your passion is not invincible & you will never be able to answer at the bar of prudence if you do not conquer it. I do not know the Ladys age but if she has not passed the time of life & should have children it will give you additional distress to see them reproachd & vilified as bastards by your unjust malignant enemies. Had you been an obscure person or a son of Liberty such an affair might pass with little or no notice. If Otis should marry his mother I am not sure that any body would be offended whilst he continued to assert the Liberties of their Country. I am sure he & others have done what is more atrocious & are applauded for it. I know an obscure person in my neighbourhood who married his first wifes neice & the minister of the Church he belonged to came to me & asked my advice whether he should be debard the Communion. I asked him whether he had not many of his people concerned in runing goods. Certainly, he said. Why then my advice is to join them with him which was the most satisfactory answer I could give. But such an Answer would not satisfy in your case. I have dealt sincerely & with the freedom which friendship requires & am Dear Sir Your faithful humble Servant,

    Upon the arrival of the first message of the House & my answer I had immediately liberty given to bring the Council to Boston. Upon the answer of the Protest [a few days after] the restraint I was before [under] was [renewed] & I am now less at liberty than ever to hold a Council I Boston whilst they deny the authority & prerogative of the Crown to call it any where else.

    AC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 27:254).

    917. To Sir Francis Bernard

    13 Nov. 1771

    Dear Sir, A Stephen Jones was with me to day from Machias.1 I lately made him a Justice of Peace there & he seems to be a sensible decent man. I told him I thought the Assembly had treated the affair of the Intrusions there & of the spoil made upon the Kings woods with so much neglect that it was probable Parliamt would seperate all the Country East of Kenebeck from the Massa. Province & that the Grants made by the Assembly would not be confirmed but I thought it not improbable the Grantees might obtain Grants from the Crown upon a moderate quitrent. He said it was the general expectation of the Settlers that they would be subjected to a quit rent & they would willingly submit to it but he hoped it would not be more than 12d sterling for 100 Acres on which rent Grants had been made in New Hampshire. He did not doubt it necessary that the settlers would generally sign a petition to the Crown to hold their Lands on those Terms. I am Dear Sir Your faithful & most obedient Servant,

    AC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 27:255); at foot of letter, “Sr F B.”

    918. To William Tryon

    Boston 25 Nov. 1771

    Sir, I have the honour of your Letter of the 6th Instant which I did not receive until this morning having been absent from Town on a journey for 10 days past. The Subject of it is interesting to both Governments. I have not authority to take any step without the concurrence of the other Branches of the General Assembly & I cannot tell when I shall be able to bring this or any other Affair before the Assembly. The conduct of the House of Representatives at the close of the last Session was so exceptionable that I was in doubt whether I ought not immediately to have dissolved the Court but, upon weighing all circumstances, I judged it most advisable to continue it upon prorogations until this conduct is known in England & I shall receive His Majesty’s Instructions in consequence.

    I never approved of the proceedings of this Government in encouraging the great number of Settlers upon the Lands in dispute between the two Governments but, since these unfortunate men have spent so much of their Lives & some of them parted with their Estates in order to improve this new unsettled Country, I could wish they might be quieted in their possessions. I am altogether disinterested & am moved meerly by compassion. If this could be effected, upon any reasonable terms, the Jurisdiction of the small Tract in difference between the Commissaries in 1767 I should think scarcely worth contending about. I will communicate your Letter to His Majesty’s Council and if any thing occurs to them worth acquainting you with I will do it by the next post.1 I am with very great regard & esteem Sir Your most obedient humble Servant,

    AC (National Archives UK, CO 5/761, f. 19); at foot of letter, “Excellency Gov. Tryon”; docketed, “Copy of two Letters from Govr Hutchinson to Governor Tryon. In Govr Hutchinson’s (No 16) of 28th. Novemr. 1771. (7).” AC (National Archives UK, CO 5/894, ff. 174–75); docketed, “Massachusets. Copy of two Letters from Govr. Hutchinson to Governor Tryon Nov. 1771 In the Govr’s. Letter No. 16. O.o. 32.” AC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 27:256–57); at foot of letter, “His Excelly Gov Tryon.” SC (National Archives UK, CO 5/1076, f. 58); at head of letter, “Copy (In Ditto)”; at foot of letter, “His Excellency Governor Tryon.”