Three Versions of a Letter on the Massachusetts Claim to Lands in Eastern Maine

    1159. To Lord Dartmouth, [No Date]

    1160. To [Lord Dartmouth], 16 October 1773

    1161. To [Lord Dartmouth], 16 October 1773

    In a private letter dated 4 August, Lord Dartmouth indicated he was considering a proposal that would allow Massachusetts the right to grant lands and establish townships in Sagadahoc, the region east of the Kennebec River, provided certain areas within it that were most promising for mast trees and naval stores were reserved to the crown. At the same time, however, Dartmouth expressed doubt about the validity of the Massachusetts claim to territory lying further east, between the Penobscot and St. John Rivers (the latter was the border with what was then Nova Scotia). The reader will decide whether TH’s exposition of the complex issues is clearer in the first or second versions of the letter, but large portions of the second were incorporated into the final draft.

    1159. To Lord Dartmouth

    [No Date]

    Private

    not sent

    My Lord, In your separate Letter of the 4th of August your Lordship is pleased to desire my Sentiments upon a proposal suggested as proper to be made to this Government to release to it the right of confirmation of Grants of Land in the District East of Sagadahoc upon condition that the Province on their part release to the Crown such tracts within that District as upon survey shall appear proper to be reserved as Nurseries for Masts & Naval Timber & will also enact proper regulations for the preservation of such Tracts & preventing trespasses thereon.1

    The proposal appears to me so favorable to the Province that a refusal to comply with it must argue great perverseness and yet I am not sure of such compliance whilst the present influence which the Assembly are under remains. Nothing would be so likely to effect it as an apprehension that Parliament would separate that part from the rest of the Province unless some reasonable proposal to be made by the Province should prevent. When the present Charter was granted whether it was then English or French Territory it is certain there were no English Inhabitants East of Penobscot & I think none so far East as Casco Bay all having been drove off by the French & Indians, if there had been Inhabitants in either District they could not have any claim to an incorporation with Massa Colony, nor does it appear that the Massachusetts Colony then desired an incorporation with either Nova Scotia or Sagadehoc. The inducement to Nova Scotia & Acadie seems to have been the Conquest made of them in the year before from the French & perhaps there was a further view namely that being in one Government with Massachusets they might receive joint protection with the rest of the Province from the authority constituted over the whole. It must be observed that this authority was at the same time restrained from making grants of any part of this Territory to have any effect without the confirmation of the Crown. The Charter reserves all Trees fit for Masts growing in any part of the Province not before granted to private persons & inflicts a penalty of One hundred pounds for every such Tree cut or destroyed. The power of inflicting this Penalty has not been admitted in any prosecutions which have been made. The best reason which has been assigned for a distinction between this Eastern Territory & the rest of the Province in the power of granting Lands is this—that it was the intention of the Crown to make a more special reserve of the Timber in that part of the Province and altho the legal power of the Crown to inflict such a penalty might be disputed yet an acknowledgment on the part of the Province of the unreasonableness of such a penalty by their acceptance of the Charter might preclude the Inhabitants from any reasonable Objection to a penalty like or less, when afterwards inflicted by a legal authority. May not therefore a refusal or long neglect2 to secure or reserve that interest for the sake whereof the jurisdiction was intrusted be a good reason in equity for reassuming it?

    Within a very few years after the date of the Charter the Assembly complained of the fort at Port Royal & at Pemaquid as a burden and made application to the Crown to be relieved from the charge of them the Address in 1694 may probably be found in the plantation office.3 By neglect both in England & in the Colony the French Inhabitants of Nova Scotia soon after threw off subjection to the English Government and acknowledged subjection to France and I suppose part of Acadie did the same for at Penobscot or Pentagook Castine was in possession of his Fort there before the peace of Ryswick.4 Whether this Government applied to be relieved from Acadie as well as Nova Scotia I cannot determine many of the Papers of which I was possessed having been destroyed by the Mob [illegible] at the destruction of my House.5 The voluntary derelection of Nova Scotia I suppose to be the true reason why this Government laid no claim to it upon the reconquest by Nicholson.6 I am not acquainted with any claim made to any part of the Country so far East as Penobscot either by the Government or private persons until Mr Waldo a very enterprising person about the year 1730 undertook in behalf of the descendants of Thomas Leveret to revive a claim to a Tract of 30 miles square near & upon Penobscot River by virtue of a Grant to Beauchamp Leveret from the Council of Plimouth in 1629 & after a hearing before the King in Council an Authority which had been granted to Colo. Dunbar to govern that Territory was revoked. I am in doubt whether jus postlimini would not take place after the reconquest of Nova Scotia or Acadie as much as in any case whatsoever because although ceded by the Treaty of Breda to the French yet they had been recovered by and were in possession of the English when the last Charter to the Massachusets was granted and I submit to your Lordship whether it may not be material to settle first where the original right lay.7 If in the French and the delivering that Country up I am not able to determine whether by the Laws of Nations the Province would or would not have had a claim to this Country jure postlimini if they had not deserted it. The incorporation was made at a time when the English were in actual possession the French soon after repossessed themselves. If it had been restored to the English at the Treaty of Ryswick I suppose the Province might have claimed by force of the Grant if the voluntary dereliction had not been a bar whether after it had been ceded or restored to the French by Treaty.

    The extent of Acadie has always been controverted. Pentagook or Penobscot both by English & French has nevertheless been deemed by both within the limits of it. Port Royal & Pentagook were alike ceded or as the French say restored by the Treaty of Breda, they were conquered together by Sir William Phips in 1690,8 were both repossessed by the French soon after were both again ceded or restored to the French by the Treaty of Ryswick in 1697 & were both recovered in 1710 by Nicholson & by the Treaty of Utrecht were both again ceded or restored to Great Britain. Unless therefore Nova Scotia was relinquished by the Massachusets & Acadie was not there seems to be no better title to one than to the other for if they may claim the one jure postliminii they have equal claim to the other. I am not Civilian enough My Lord to presume to give my opinion whether if there had been no relinquishment of either territory the Province could claim upon the principles of jur postliminii.9 I rather think there are several niceties which would make it a very difficult case to determine. Thus much may be said for the Province that Nova Scotia they never have laid any claim to. Acadie they claimed about the year 1716 upon a petition of Coram & others for a Grant of it and in 1731 or soon after their title seems to have been conceded to and they supposed themselves quieted ever since tho there have been no improvements made until within a few years past.10 Upon the whole if the Province should be called upon to make out their title to Acadie it will open a large field and require much time to determine it but if they are charged with neglect of & refusal to exercise that care over this Territory which was an implied condition of their retaining the jurisdiction of it and upon which the Salus populi so much depends I am utterly at a loss what defence they can make or what arguments they will use against a separation of it from their jurisdiction.11 The best that I can think of would be an acknowledgment of their past neglect and security for their future fidelity. Thus My Lord I have in obedienc to your commands stated the case of this Territory as truly & impartially as is in my power which I submit to your Lordship’s superior judgment and have the honour to be,

    AC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 27:552–54). The entire letter was crossed out in TH’s letterbook.

    1160. To [Lord Dartmouth]

    Boston 16 October 1773

    Separate

    Copied 3 leaves forward

    My Lord, A In 1690 The year before the Province Charter was granted Nova Scotia had been recovered from the French by Sir Wm Phips under a Commission from the Governor of the Massachusets Colony. B This Conquest I believe was one Inducement to incorporate this Territory with the Massa. Colony in 1691, and another might be to keep alive the English claim to the dominion of it, for I doubt whether there could then be any great room to hope for a cession of it to the English upon a Treaty of Peace. At the time of this Grant there were no English Inhabitants except a small number in Garrison at Port Royal to take any benefit from this Incorporation nor do I know of any evidence that the Massachusets at the date of the present Charter or at any time since ever desired that Nova Scotia should be part of the Province and It is certain that in about two years after they had been incorporated the Assembly made application to the Crown that they might be released from the burden of keeping Port Royal and the French soon after took the command of that Fort & of St. Johns & of the whole Territory which was also ceded at the Treaty of Ryswick and altho’ reconquered by Nicholson & ceded or restored by the Treaty of Utrecht the Massachusets either never thought of a claim to Nova Scotia jure postliminii or if they did never wished to take any benefit from it. But the Territory from Nova Scotia to Penobscot was claimed soon after the Peace of Utrecht when Armstrong & others petitioned the Crown for the grant of it to raise Hemp.1

    It seems a doubt whether there was such a possession in the English at the time when the Grant was made to the Massachusets Province as to give them a title to it. If the Grant was valid have not the Grantees the same claim to jus postliminii as if the Possession had been continually in the English until the time when the Grant was made and there had not been the Cession by the Treaty of Breda from which your Lordships doubt arises. By the Charter the Pine trees in the Lands of the Province in general not granted to private persons had been reserved to the Crown and there is a further restriction in this Territory that the Lands themselves cannot be granted without the special approbation of the Crown and the best reason that can be given for this restriction is that by means of it the interest which the Crown has in the Timber may be better preserved but whatever might be the intention The Assembly refuse to take any measures to prevent the intrusions which are making every day upon the Territory until it is become sufficiently peopled for a seperate & distinct County & the Timber is wasted & spoiled.

    Altho The proposal suggested by your Lordship is so reasonable that without great perverseness it cannot be refused yet if it was now to be made I think it would be refused.

    Would there My Lord be any impropriety to inform the Assembly that in order to the preservation of the Timber His Majesty finds it will be necessary to lay the State of this Territory before His Parliament unless effectual measures shall be taken by the Assembly to remove the Intruders or proposals shall be made which may cause His Majesty to alter his purpose?

    For be the claims ever so good, the Salus populi so much depends upon the preservation of an Interest of this nature, that the Assembly must be left without any ground of complaint if a Territory, which was united to the Massachusets without any special claim to it meerly by force of a Royal Charter, shall by the authority of an Act of Parliament be separated & erected into a distinct Government annexed to Nova Scotia or be otherwise disposed of as shall be thought fit.

    Thus My Lord I have in obedience to your commands stated the case of this Territory as well as I am capable of. I have the honour to be My Lord Your Lordships most humble & most obedient Servant,

    AC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 27:554–55). The entire letter was crossed out in TH’s letterbook. Contemporary printings: New England Chronicle, 29 June 1775; Boston Gazette, 3 July 1775; Newport Mercury, 10 July 1775; Massachusetts Spy, 12 July 1775; Norwich Packet, 24 July 1775 (all partial excerpt of fifth paragraph only).

    1161. To [Lord Dartmouth]

    Boston 16. October 1773

    Separate

    My Lord, In your separate letter of the 4th. of August your Lordshhp has been pleased to express a doubt whether that part of Acadie which lies east of Penobscot was not as much vested in the Crown upon the conquest by Genl Nicholson as what is commonly called Nova Scotia, and to desire my opinion upon it.

    The original Right by discovery to all Acadie including Nova Scotia has always been asserted by the English, the possession has been sometimes in the English sometimes in the French, the prevailing possession, until Nicholson’s conquest, as far West as Penobscot inclusive has been in the French; from Penobscot to Kenebeck the French have had no actual possession of which I have seen any evidence except DuMonts travelling through the Country in 1604 & the conquest of a Fort at Pemaquid in 1696 which held a few days only.1

    In 1690, the year before the Charter to the Province was granted, Nova Scotia had been recovered from the French by Sir Wm. Phips under a Commission from the Governor of the Massachusets Colony who as he was returning to Boston stopped at Penobscot & took possession of the Fort there for the English Crown. I find no evidence of any actual possession after he left it & I make no doubt of the return of the Baron St Castine soon after and that it was held by him as a French Subject as long as he lived.

    This conquest I believe was one inducement to incorporate the Territory with the Massachusets Colony in 1691. There were no English Inhabitants except a small number in garrison at Port Royal to take any benefit from this incorporation nor do I know of any evidence that the Massachusets at the date of the present Charter or at any time since ever desired that Nova Scotia should be part of the Province & it is certain that in about two years after they had been incorporated the Assembly made application to the Crown that they might be relieved from the burden of keeping Port Royal and the French soon after took the command of that Fort, of St. Johns and of the whole Territory which was also ceded at the Treaty of Ryswick, and altho’ reconquered by Nicholson & ceded or restored by the Treaty of Utrecht the Massachusets either never thought of a claim to Nova Scotia jure postliminii or if they did never wished to take any benefit from it. But the Territory from Nova Scotia to Penobscot was claimed soon after the peace of Utrecht when Armstrong & others petitioned the Crown for the grant of it to raise Hemp &ca. At that time there was a proposal made by Mr Dummer the Province Agent to the Lords of Trade to relinquish all East of Penobscot provided the restraint from making Grants might be taken off from the Lands West.2 This offer, at first, was not favoured by the Lords of Trade. Afterwards when it was favoured & communicated to the Assembly they refused to close with it. The Agent tho’ he then claimed the whole Country to Saint Croix yet, in his correspondence, he expresses more doubt of the fate of that part East than of that West of Penobscot.

    If the English Crown had not such a possession, as that a valid grant could be made, at the time of the Province Charter, I know of nothing which can give a title, but if the possession of part of Acadie may be deemed a possession of the whole, or if the possession of Penobscot by Phips under a Commission from the Massachusets shall be deemed to continue until after the date of the Charter and its being ceded by the Treaty of Ryswick, although the Country was given up by the Crown of England yet when it was again recovered did not the right of repossession return also to the Subjects jure postliminii? I am not Civilian enough to presume to give any direct opinion in such a case.

    But, however this may be determined, it is worth observing that when by the Charter the Pine Trees in the Lands of the Province in general not then granted to private persons had been reserved to the Crown, there is a further restriction in this Territory so that the Lands themselves cannot be granted without the special approbation of the Crown, and the best reason that can be given for this restriction is that by means of it the Interest which the Crown has in the Timber may be better preserved, but, whatever may be the intention, the Assembly refuse or neglect to take any measures to prevent the intrusions which are making every day upon the Territory until it is become sufficiently peopled for a separate & distinct County and great part of the Timber is wasted & spoiled.

    Although the proposal suggested by your Lordship is so reasonable that, without great perverseness, it cannot be refused yet if it was now to be made I think it would be refused. Would there My Lord be any impropriety in setting forth, in an Instruction to the Governor the Importance of preserving the King’s woods, the doubt of the Title to this part of the Country &, however that may be, the certainty of the restrictions it is under, the Intrusions which are nevertheless made and the neglect of the Assembly to remove them; and then directing him to inform the Assembly that, in order to the preservation of the Timber, His Majesty finds it will be necessary to lay the state of the Territory before the Parliament, unless effectual measures shall be taken by the Assembly to remove the Intrusions or proposals shall be made which may cause His Majesty to alter his purpose? For, be the claim ever so well founded, the Salus populi so much depends upon the preservation of an Interest of this nature that the Assembly must be left without any ground of complaint, if a Territory which was united to the Massachusets, without any special claim to it merely by force of a Royal Charter, shall by the authority of an Act of Parliament be separated & erected into a distinct Government, annexed to Nova Scotia or be otherwise disposed of as shall be thought fit.

    Thus, My Lord, I have in obedience to your commands stated the case of this Territory as well as I am capable of. I have the honour to be My Lord Your Lordships most humble & most obedient Servant,

    RC (National Archives UK, CO 5/762, ff. 408–09); at foot of letter, “Rt Honble. the Earl of Dartmouth”; docketed, “Boston 16th: Octr. 1773. Govr. Hutchinson. (Separate) Rx 15th. Novr. Encl.” DupRC (National Archives UK, CO 5/895, ff. 92–93); at head of letter, “Seperate Duplicate”; docketed, “Massachusets. Duplicate of a Letter from Govr. Hutchinson to the Earl of Dartmouth, dated Octr. 16. 1773, relative to the right of the Crown to that part of Acadie, which lies East of Penobscot. P.p. 42. Read Decr: 20. 1773.”; in EH’s hand. AC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 27:559–60); at head of letter, “Separate Lively.” SC (National Archives UK, CO 5/769, ff. 13–18); docketed, “Boston 16th. October 1773. Governor Hutchinson. (Separate) Rx 15th. November.”; at end of letter, “Inclosures.” Enclosures to RC: Boston Gazette, 20 September 1773, pp. 1–2 (National Archives UK, CO 5/762, ff. 410–11); Boston Weekly News-Letter, 14 October 1773, pp. 1–2 (National Archives UK, CO 5/762, ff. 412–13). Contemporary printings: Remembrancer for the Year 1776, part 2, pp. 61–62 (partial excerpt of seventh paragraph only).

    1162. To Lord Dartmouth

    Boston 16. October 17731

    My Lord, As it was my intention in the foregoing letter to represent the state of the Province and the influence the people are under more circumstantially than is proper for a publick letter,2 I now take the liberty, with the same design, to accompany the duplicate with a Letter, which has since come to my hands from a Clergyman of a very fair character, which shews the effect of the late proceedings of the Assembly upon the minds of the people; for the state of the Town of Brookfield is a specimen of the state of the whole Province and, except in the Town of Boston,3 I have reason to think the people in general have in a great measure, if not wholly, divested themselves of the prejudices caused by so villainous a conspiracy to bring the whole Government into confusion,4 & I have every day less room to doubt that the authors of it have hurt their cause instead of securing it.

    The writer of the Letter desires me to burn it but, as he could have no apprehensions except from people within the Province, I consider it as much concealed by inclosing it in a private Letter to your Lordship as if it had been destroyed. I am very respectfully My Lord Your Lordships most faithful humble Servant,

    RC (Staffordshire Record Office, Dartmouth Collection, D(W)1778/I/ii/893); at foot of letter, “Rt Honble the Earl of Dartmouth.” AC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 27:556); at head of letter, “Private” and “Lively”; at end of letter, “Ld Dartmouth.”

    1163. To Eli Forbes

    Boston 16. Octo 1773

    Sir, I am much obliged to my friends in many parts of the Province for their kind Letters expressing a resentment at the late injurious treatment I have met with & to you in particular for your friendly letter upon the same occasion.1 I wondered less at the malice the fraud & the gross injustice than I did at the weakness & folly of the proceeding. One would be apt to think that men of comon sense would never pass a sett of Resolves founded upon Letters which had no tendency to support them, but I have lately had reason to believe they did not intend the Letters should ever appear & that after they had spread very false Reports of the tenor & purport of the Letters many of the Inhabitants of B. called upon their Representatives for the publication of them & they were obliged to submit to it. I will venture to say there has been such a conspiracy between some persons in Eng & others in B. that if the Law had its course they would not only be liable to be prosecuted criminalite but a good action might be maintained against them as private persons for damages.

    I have had but one set of principles upon government in general and the constitution of this Province in particular. There must be one Supreme Legislature in every State: I have always wished & endeavoured that we might possess every Liberty which can consist with this principle. Now if this tends to subvert the Constitution there was no need of procuring private letters in a base way for the history which I published & many publick speeches & messages announce the same principle. My letters contain nothing more if they had contained less or any thing contrary to this principle there might be room to charge me with duplicity. I hope the people who have been deluded will be undeceived & that such of their Representatives as had not power to act their own minds will attain to a greater degree of fortitude. If this should not be the case neither with the one nor with the other I know nevertheless that the great Governor of the World always does right & I desire to acknowledge it as well in adversity as in prosperity. I have not been unmindful of your request & wish to oblige you. I am seeking a way of doing it without disobliging some of my other friends. I am Reverend Sir Your most obedient Servant,

    I thank you for the Volume of Sermons. I had some personal knowledge & a very good esteem of the author.2

    AC (Massachusetts Archives, SC1/series 45X, 27:556–57); at end of letter, “Rev. Mr Forbes.”