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Ought to refuse that office.
Qu: whither if an offended brother chuse the two Eldrs
to heare it in private they Must doe that Worke?
Pri It belongs ordinarily to private Brethren 1. bec:
by that means the offence is kept more private, then
when publick persons take notice of it, (that wch Xt in his
Order Math. 18 takes Care of) 2. Elders also would be
lesse able to mannage it afterwards (the greatest Strength is
to be reserved to yt wr in is greatest difficulty Sc: publick
agitatiō) They therefore may & Ordinarily (therefore)
ought to decline it.
Decem: 19 1667
Jonathan Jonathan Platts Son of (as was Reported) of a Godly ffather Member of
Platts. a Congregationall Church in England , had by his wife (a Woman of
good conversation & well esteemed, yet not a member-in-full-Communion)
Children whom he had desired Might be baptized: we offerd that his Children
might be baptized on his Wifes account (she having manifested fittnesse
to be so acknowledged) No! (Sayd he) they shall be baptized on Mine.
Or some Reason why he did diserve to be worse accounted of then others
whose Children were baptized , Should be given / It was answered Him
In private : Besides his once bringing his Children (when Mr Phillips
was about to baptize another Child) unto them desiring (though Mr Phillips
had before in private told Him he would not) that they might be
ha when Mr Phillips [then] in publick refused it , he had
the Congregation take Notice –––– (which was 1. disorderly , 2. an act
disturbing & tending to render the Ordinance wch was to be administered to
the Other infant lesse Sollemne . [prophanesse it was to
take force the mixture of M Observation of Mens distemperes at a time when Gods
name was to be Sanctifyed] But besides that formerly
mentioned to Him & which indeed if the Church could have passed by
we would, and therefore had offered to propound it to the church!
And yet having other advice & warning afterward durst not /
Then in private was mentioned to Him some particulars which being
the exprssions of that Spirit wch we had great reason to presume
was the mans wonted Evill, it was thought needfull that he should
ing some Repentance for ‘Ere we could admitt Him into Nearer
Communion (Sc: to take ye Covent. & to have his Children baptized)
in discourse this Jonathan in discourse , did Say that [Speaking
of propounding his
Chil case [Supra of bringing his Children as he did)
for yt apprhensions thereabouts whither it were not scandalous] that
they would Doe as they were led] intimating that Eyther Leaders
were Unfaythfull , or people Ignorant; This he sayd he did not
undrstand of all the Church as a church but of sundry particular
but , ye Contempt cast on them particular he neyther, gave his
Reason for, nor Did confesse his fault in.